Comments on: The Initial Assessment of Google Unveiling Approximate Search Counts in Google External Keyword Tool http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/ Keyword Research and SEO Explained for the Rest of Us Mon, 23 May 2011 19:22:20 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/comment-page-2/#comment-2172 Anonymous Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:17:00 +0000 http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/#comment-2172 I'm not really sure how important these numbers are as a decision making tool unless your looking at long tail keywords. The goal of most business sites is to drive higher quality traffic. If your looking at a general key term you have no idea what percentage might be your target market. Even with the long tail keywords it sketchy. Just my opinion though. Looking at analytics after the fact will always be a greater decision making guide. I’m not really sure how important these numbers are as a decision making tool unless your looking at long tail keywords. The goal of most business sites is to drive higher quality traffic. If your looking at a general key term you have no idea what percentage might be your target market. Even with the long tail keywords it sketchy. Just my opinion though.

Looking at analytics after the fact will always be a greater decision making guide.

]]> By: SEO Specialist http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/comment-page-2/#comment-1637 SEO Specialist Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:00:03 +0000 http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/#comment-1637 Easy Jim, Nice words up there, i remember when i first heard this and my reaction was the same. I just couldn't believe that they would publish this holy grail like information - especially with overture and all. Since the release i have used this tool pretty much every week day and it has let me help a lot of clients. So its all good... Cheers Pal, Jon Easy Jim,

Nice words up there, i remember when i first heard this and my reaction was the same. I just couldn’t believe that they would publish this holy grail like information – especially with overture and all. Since the release i have used this tool pretty much every week day and it has let me help a lot of clients. So its all good…

Cheers Pal,
Jon

]]> By: loanmodification http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/comment-page-2/#comment-1059 loanmodification Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:03:50 +0000 http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/#comment-1059 Hi Jim , Thanx for the clear analysis of the pro's and cons' of using google's revealed search counts.I find the news very simulating ,but only issue have had with google search counts -is when i try to do some research for niche keywords or keywords related to new hot trends for example "loan modification" the relevancy for this keyword result is hardly worth believing. But If i take a rather broad keyword in the same industry "mortgage refinance" the results shown are much appropriate. so does search counts co-related in any way with the age of any keywords or its related market. Hi Jim ,

Thanx for the clear analysis of the pro’s and cons’ of using google’s revealed search counts.I find the news very simulating ,but only issue have had with google search counts -is when i try to do some research for niche keywords or keywords related to new hot trends for example “loan modification” the relevancy for this keyword result is hardly worth believing.
But If i take a rather broad keyword in the same industry “mortgage refinance” the results shown are much appropriate.

so does search counts co-related in any way with the age of any keywords or its related market.

]]> By: Mikael http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/comment-page-1/#comment-1069 Mikael Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:25:59 +0000 http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/#comment-1069 I know that this thread is almost a half year old but since I was reading the latest post I just felt that I had to comment on this. Even though we still can't use the Google numbers as any accurate measurement it is still the best (most reliable) tool that has ever been. I agree that keyword tools still have a long way to go but with Google's release I think we made a major step in the right direction. I know that this thread is almost a half year old but since I was reading the latest post I just felt that I had to comment on this.

Even though we still can’t use the Google numbers as any accurate measurement it is still the best (most reliable) tool that has ever been. I agree that keyword tools still have a long way to go but with Google’s release I think we made a major step in the right direction.

]]> By: Site Metrics http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/comment-page-1/#comment-1068 Site Metrics Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:29:56 +0000 http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/#comment-1068 Good move Google. Although it is important to have more than one source to research, Google services are becoming more and more useful as a keyword research tools. Good move Google. Although it is important to have more than one source to research, Google services are becoming more and more useful as a keyword research tools.

]]> By: Søgemaskineoptimering http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/comment-page-1/#comment-1067 Søgemaskineoptimering Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:09:14 +0000 http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/#comment-1067 Great post, lovely! Great post, lovely!

]]> By: Google Keyword Tool Changes: Exposing the Numbers — Pay Per Click Trick http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/comment-page-1/#comment-1028 Google Keyword Tool Changes: Exposing the Numbers — Pay Per Click Trick Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:19:06 +0000 http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/#comment-1028 [...] stand out: Jerry west wrote “Google Updates their Keyword Tool” and Jim Morris wrote “The Initial Assessment of Google Unveiling Approximate Search Counts In Google External Keywo.... (Haha, Jim, you crack me up with your beancounter language - but that’s exactly what makes [...] [...] stand out: Jerry west wrote “Google Updates their Keyword Tool” and Jim Morris wrote “The Initial Assessment of Google Unveiling Approximate Search Counts In Google External Keywo…. (Haha, Jim, you crack me up with your beancounter language – but that’s exactly what makes [...]

]]> By: Google adwords For beginners http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/comment-page-1/#comment-1026 Google adwords For beginners Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:48:39 +0000 http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/#comment-1026 It's funny that when I first heard that the google keyword tool was going to contain estimates, I thought i would be absolutely mesmerized by it. Funny thing is now that it is live, I actually hardly use it. With some really savvy software available that does the job adequately, I am not sure that a keyword suggestion tool with approximate numbers will take on a life of it's own It’s funny that when I first heard that the google keyword tool was going to contain estimates, I thought i would be absolutely mesmerized by it. Funny thing is now that it is live, I actually hardly use it. With some really savvy software available that does the job adequately, I am not sure that a keyword suggestion tool with approximate numbers will take on a life of it’s own

]]> By: The NicheBOT Guy http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/comment-page-1/#comment-1066 The NicheBOT Guy Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:39:54 +0000 http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/#comment-1066 Hey All, And here's the screenshot of the Google Data Import already working within NicheBOT :D <img src="http://www.nichebot.com/images/google-import.jpg"> You'll notice that one column that the G tool doesn't show for us organic optimizers (the competition column) ;) Jim Hey All,

And here’s the screenshot of the Google Data Import already working

within NicheBOT :D

You’ll notice that one column that the G tool doesn’t show for us

organic optimizers (the competition column) ;)

Jim

]]> By: The NicheBOT Guy http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/comment-page-1/#comment-1065 The NicheBOT Guy Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:39:37 +0000 http://www.nichebot.com/blog/160/google-assessment/#comment-1065 Milan, You said: <b>"Here is one of the reasons why Google data is less acurate in your results, and in general: For competitive keywords, there are many people who just check the rankings. They either just doing SEO research, or are the competition and they check THEIR rankings once a day, or even automatically - couple times a day. Smaller search engines have a larger percentage of "real" users, who search to get data. Do you know an SEO person who doesn't check rankings on Google? Hardly."</b> I'll have to agree with you there. This is one thing I did not discuss in my dissertation above and that was the NOISE that search engines like Google get as a result of rank checkers, people just looking up keywords by doing research, doing competition searches and lets not forget all the desktop keyword tools that access Google.com's index. So yeah - you are very right about all the NOISE that is going on as it relates to Google and other large search engines. Best, Jim Milan,

You said:

“Here is one of the reasons why Google data is less acurate in your results, and in general:

For competitive keywords, there are many people who just check the rankings. They either just doing SEO research, or are the competition and they check THEIR rankings once a day, or even automatically – couple times a day.

Smaller search engines have a larger percentage of “real” users, who search to get data. Do you know an SEO person who doesn’t check rankings on Google? Hardly.”

I’ll have to agree with you there.

This is one thing I did not discuss in my dissertation above and that was the NOISE that search engines like Google get as a result of rank checkers, people just looking up keywords by doing research, doing competition searches and lets not forget all the desktop keyword tools that access Google.com’s index.

So yeah – you are very right about all the NOISE that is going on as it relates to Google and other large search engines.

Best,

Jim

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